Barry

- It's a privilege to have grandchildren

and many grandparents don't
get the chance to be involved

or have close relationships
with their grandchildren.

And we, we, we work very hard at that.

- Our job is to keep fit and
healthy so we can do that.

- You have to be fit and
healthy to follow a 3-year-old.

- Yes. So what what is nice for us is

that we can be independent and we can go

and pick them up, take them into the city.

- We share the driving and we,

we feel safe and confident doing it.

You have to be aware of
the fact that, you know,

driving nowadays is a lot
more pressurised than it was

40 years ago or 10 years ago.

Try to be much more aware of

what other people are gonna do rather

than simply my own driving.

I think that's certainly
with the kids in the car,

that's something I do a lot. Yeah.

- When there was an option of
grandchildren coming along,

we said, oh my goodness,
we better get a good car.

- We were looking for things
like the automatic braking

systems, certainly front

and side airbags, lane sensor, those sort

of things all give you some
sort of confidence that you can

carry on even in a highly pressurised

driving environment.

- I love driving with Ken
because he's a good driver

and as long as I tell him where we're going

and how to get there,
we'll be absolutely fine.

- And I'm very lucky. I've
had somebody telling me how

to drive for 50 years

- And where to park and where not to park.

I am the parking the

- parking assist.

Yeah.

- So I've been driving ever since.

I was 13 and a half on the farm,

and then at 17 I got my licence

and I've been driving ever since.

Recently I had a fall

and that put me out of action for a while.

Some days I'm in so much
pain that I can't drive,

but using the public transport is fine.

I don't have to do anything.

I'm very fortunate where I live

because there's a tram line
right in front of the door.

Most of the time I take
the tram these days

because you can't find
a parking for the car

and it costs a fortune
just to find a parking.

Hopping on the tram is fantastic

and special way they've made it.

Now that it's no steps, it's wonderful

when it comes to driving

and special with all the injuries I have.

When I feel that I can't
drive, I'm not gonna do it,

and I've had all the medical
checkups with my doctor,

with the optometrist and with a physio

and all of these things.

I keep myself going by doing all that.

Driving is a very responsible job.

It's all about staying safe
and looking out for each other.